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Devil Survivor 2 pre-orders delayed

Hi everyone. I’m starting this week’s blog with an apology. As some of you have already noticed, we’re sorry to say that pre-orders for Devil Survivor 2 haven’t gone live this week as previously planned. Don’t despair though, as we’re just waiting on final approval of the content that we hope to include with the European edition. We could open pre-orders now, but we don’t think that would be fair without being able to tell you conclusively what you will be receiving.

What I can tell you though is that we’re making this fantastic SRPG available as one of two deals:

Option 1: Standalone Release

  • Devil Survivor 2 (DS)
  • This factory sealed edition will be available to all PAL territories and anyone pre-ordering from us will have the option to include their name in the DS2 manual.
  • Pre-Order price £24.99/€29.99

Option 2: Devil Survivor Bundle

  • Devil Survivor 2 (DS) & Devil Survivor Overclocked (3DS) with £10.00 discount!
  • Both games will be factory sealed and as with Option 1, anyone pre-ordering the bundle will have the option to include their name in the DS2 manual. Regrettably, we will not be able to ship this bundle to Germany due to an existing distribution agreement.
  • Pre-Order price £49.98/€59.98 (usual price £59.98/€69.98)

(All prices exclude P&P.)

We know that asking for pre-orders with no guarantee of release is expecting a huge amount of trust from you. So in an effort to be as open with you as we can, we are going to share a few figures with you. To break even on Devil Survivor 2’s manufacturing costs, we will need to reach a total of 1800 pre-orders between the two options offered and pre-orders will be open for one month only. If we don’t meet (or come close) to this quota during that time, then everyone who ordered Devil Survivor 2 on its own will receive a full refund while those who ordered the bundle will receive a refund of £24.99 - meaning that you will still receive Devil Survivor Overclocked with the huge £10.00 discount.

We’re expecting manufacture to take five weeks so assuming we reach our target and we enter manufacturing when pre-orders close, the game should be released at the end of September. If we reach our target sooner than the pre-order deadline, then we will naturally move into manufacturing before the close of pre-orders, meaning that you would get your game a little sooner.

In any event, I will keep you all updated on a regular basis to let you know how things are going.

 

About SMT: Devil Survivor 2

The choice is yours.

What would you do if you could see others’ deaths before they come to pass? A mysterious website – Nicaea – will show you just that. What you do with the information will determine the fate of millions as calamity strikes Japan...

The sequel to one of 2009’s best RPGs, SMT: Devil Survivor 2 continues a long tradition of excellence for the acclaimed Shin Megami Tensei universe of games.

  • An all new story and cast.
  • Recruit Your Party, Build Bonds. Develop your relationship with party members for better performance in battle.
  • Collect, Customize, Barter and Fuse Every Last Demon! Twice as many demons to find and unlock as in the original game.

 

In other equally important news, Elminage Original LIMITED EDITION is coming along nicely and we are expecting to be able to give a release date and open pre-orders in the next couple of weeks.

I know quite a few of you are looking forward to this very special and extremely limited edition so to whet your appetites I thought I’d show you this image detailing the goodies we’re going to include.

Remember that only 300 of these beauties will be made so be sure to keep an eye on the blog as we’ll be announcing when pre-orders go live on here.

That’s all for now, but before I go I just wanted to offer our continued thanks to all our Agarest PC Beta testers out there – you’re all doing a fantastic job! I’ll be back next week, but until then why not follow us on our Twitter and Facebook pages, our Youtube Channel and our Google + account, where we’ll be posting all the latest news from Ghostlight? You can also follow me on Twitter for a more personal take on all things Ghostlight.

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almighty
almighty

Hi Ross.

I was just wondering.  Do you know how Ghostlight came up with a number of 300 copies for Elminage Limited Editions?  Was this based of some estimate as to what the interest in something like this might be?  Is it possible that there will be more interest in this game then there will be copies made available?  In which case both parties lose out on this (those that may want to pre-order theirs but won't get a chance to because the 300 pre-orders will all be taken by then as well as Ghostlight which may have a loss in additional revenue if only it had been made available to these customers).  Or is Ghostlight confident that they don't think that the demand won't be there past the 300 count?

inthedarkarcade
inthedarkarcade

Also, any chance of bringing The Dark Spire over to Europe? Go on. *starts undressing*

inthedarkarcade
inthedarkarcade

I'd be really keen to get the Option 2 - I own neither game but have been waiting for a good opportunity to pick them up. It'd be great to get both and support Ghostlight directly :) Looking forward to it!

Ghostlight
Ghostlight

They'd both be sent together when DS2 is manufactured.

Jamie Kerr
Jamie Kerr

I'm definately pre-ordering DS2. If I went for option 2 to receive Devil Survivor: Overclocked, would it get sent out straight away as a separate delivery, or will I have to wait for it to be sent with Devil Survivor 2 at the same time?

almighty
almighty

Why is the image of the 92 page Art book not shown in Elminage picture?  Is it still included in the Limited Edition?

PLA
PLA

I might need to scramble for money, depending on when the preorder-window happens.

Ghostlight
Ghostlight

I'm araid at the moment I don't have any news about the first Agarest coming to PSN.

P
P

Isn't there supposed to be an art book with the Elminage set? I don't see it in the picture.

Andro Spirit
Andro Spirit

Well thanks for the answer. May i ask if there is any project to release the first agarest in PS store European since Agarest zero and agarest 2 can be purchase in ? Since there is no traduction it will be the same version as the US store version no ?

Ghostlight
Ghostlight

As for the lack of Trophies in Agarest I'm afraid that we weren't able to release a patch to add Trophies.

Ghostlight
Ghostlight

I'm happy to say you will be able to by the bundle in France :).

njackn
njackn

I'm low on cash, otherwise this would be a no brainer for me :-/

camcleod99
camcleod99

Two years and this is the best you can do.

Pathetic

OkarinOfTime
OkarinOfTime

I'm just wondering if the posters are included in the double pack.

Andro Spirit
Andro Spirit

Can you tell me if the double pack (devil survivor) can be purchase by french or not ? Since devil survicor overlocked alone can not . Since i'm here another question for Agarest : if you buy Agarest (the first) in PS store USA the game come with trophies. Can you tell me why there is not a patch toi add this for people who have the game in bluray ? Sorry if this has alrealdy an answer somewhere

Crani
Crani

Give it to us straight, is 1800 pre-orders an achievable goal? I want to believe so and I will be making a pre-order for the game, but from an outsiders perspective it looks like it won't happen, the DeSu series, when compared to Persona, is not that popular and whoever wanted the game probably has imported it already. Not to be a downer, because I want this to happen, but it hs everything not too.

Pixel
Pixel

Cool i look foward to these extras in the DS2 pack :D


But what about the new vita title? Any news on that?

RosemarieFishKemp
RosemarieFishKemp

Would love to get that bundle. Won't have enough money though. Still getting DS2 :-D! I'll have to pick up overclocked another time.

BenoitRen
BenoitRen

To people who aren't convinced that SMT: Devil Survivor Break Record could fall through: look at what happened to the PSP remake of SMT: Persona 2: Eternal Punishment.

Phangtom
Phangtom

Hmm.. Not sure whether to preorder it when Break Record is going to be released soon. Especially if NIS America end up publishing the game for Europe and we end up only having to wait a few months after the US release to get it then I rather just wait than to buy the game twice.

But I guess that's all just hypothetical.


Whilst the name thing is a nice touch, it doesn't really appeal to me that much (Doesn't help my name is quite common). :P

Gary Harris
Gary Harris

Ross Brierley has answered this many times on the blog recently.... "There are several reasons why we don't want to just wait. 1) No one can actually guarantee that they'll be able to release Break Record until a deal is reached to publish it. 2) We've already done most of the work on the game. Seeing as there are some people out there who would like the game as long as we can break even on the manufacturing costs we'd rather allow them to play it rather than just sit on it."

Aerodynamisch
Aerodynamisch

Interested in pre-ordering the Devil Survivor boxset. Could it also be possible to cancel the bundle entirely if quota isn't met. I already have the NA version of Overclocked but would re-buy it in the bundle with DS2.

Filip Darida
Filip Darida

didn't you consider translating the 3DS remake (Devil Survivor 2: Break Record) rather then old DS version considering all the problems? Afaik, it's realeasing in summer in Japan.

Ross Brierley
Ross Brierley moderator

@almighty While it's possible but unlikely that we may do a standard edition in the future I have been told that we will not be reprinting the collector's edition.  Once those 300 go that's it.

Ross Brierley
Ross Brierley moderator

@almighty It's the item that looks like a slipcase.  The mock up isn't making the pages very clear.

BenoitRen
BenoitRen

@Andro Spirit Agarest War did get a European retail release. It has a different translation than Aksys's. So no, it won't be the same version as on US PSN.

RosemarieFishKemp
RosemarieFishKemp

What were you expecting, other than the actual game being released here exactly?

Red91
Red91

@camcleod99  They don't have to release DS2, yet they are and all you're doing is complaining? This is why a lot of companies don't release games over here: stuck-up, whiny 'fans' who expect the latest and greatest given to them whenever they want.

And don't bother bringing up Break Record. GL has stated numerous times why they aren't bringing it out instead of DS2:

"1) No one can actually guarantee that they'll be able to release Break Record until a deal is reached to publish it.

2) We've already done most of the work on the game. Seeing as there are some people out there who would like the game as long as we can break even on the manufacturing costs we'd rather allow them to play it rather than just sit on it."

Plus, it's not even out in Japan yet...

Ross Brierley
Ross Brierley moderator

@Crani It will be tough but if we didn't think it was possible we wouldn't be offering this.

Ross Brierley
Ross Brierley moderator

@Pixel Afraid not.  We're working on it though.  I'd love to work on another Vita title.

JWiley_12
JWiley_12

@Phangtom Afaik there currently isn't even a release planned for the US. The Japanese release has been delayed to this autumn. So there a whole lot of "ifs" and "maybes". This DS release on the other hand is real.

MrRandom28
MrRandom28

@Filip Darida They don't do any translation work. You're better off asking Atlus about a release of Break Record.

JWiley_12
JWiley_12

@Filip DaridaThey did. This is Ross's (Ross Brierley, Ghostlight's community manager) reply from 2 weeks back:

1) No one can actually guarantee that they'll be able to release Break Record until a deal is reached to publish it.

2) We've already done most of the work on the game.  Seeing as there are some people out there who would like the game as long as we can break even on the manufacturing costs we'd rather allow them to play it rather than just sit on it.

almighty
almighty

@Ross Brierley That's exactly what it looked like to me (a slipcase, and not an Art book),  pheeeewwww, breathes a huge sigh of relief :)

BenoitRen
BenoitRen

@Red91 @camcleod99 I'm buying it, but I can understand the fans's frustration. Wouldn't you be frustrated waiting for something for two years and have nothing to show for it? All Ghostlight had to do was add their logo to the game and have it rated by PEGI!

At least the person you replied to cares. Many gave up long ago and just bought the North American version, costing Ghostlight a sale.

Ross Brierley
Ross Brierley moderator

@Red91  I've edited your post. While we appreciate your support I'd appreciate if you could avoid insulting other users in the future.

Thanks

Ross

Phangtom
Phangtom

@JWiley_12 Well I did say it was all hypothetical. Whilst it's not like an English DS version doesn't already exist (US) at roughly the same price.

I just rather not invest in a game when potentially the superior version might see its release shortly afterwards. Whilst there's nothing special about the EU version for me to buy it (outside of supporting the publishers obviously). Although I do understand that some might like to have their name in the manual.

Ross Brierley
Ross Brierley moderator

@Aerodynamisch If we don't hit the target you will have the opportunity to receive a refund for the whole price rather than just the price of DS2.

JWiley_12
JWiley_12

Oops, forgot a part:


There are several reasons why we don't want to just wait.

1) No one can actually guarantee that they'll be able to release Break Record until a deal is reached to publish it.

2) We've already done most of the work on the game.  Seeing as there are some people out there who would like the game as long as we can break even on the manufacturing costs we'd rather allow them to play it rather than just sit on it.

Red91
Red91

@BenoitRen @RosemarieFishKemp You mean, other than supporting the publishers that will bring stuff out over here?

This is why region locking is good.

Red91
Red91

@Phangtom If you're going to get DS2, get the UK version, not the US one. More sales of the UK version means a better chance of us getting Break Record.

Phangtom
Phangtom

@BenoitRen "shortly" is referring to after the US release rather than the JPN release.

Companies such as NIS America seem to be doing well when it comes to EU releases. How long it will take to get here will vary so it could be 6 months, it could be 3 or longer; we won't know.

Whilst what is significant is not the time between now and the release date, but rather, the time between the EU release and Break Record. Not to mention the point about waiting a year, well really less if you only consider the time after the US supposed release doesn't sound that bad when we've waited over a year for both the DSO and DS2, and that's only taking consideration of the time between the US version.

If anything I could always get the US version, which comes out cheaper even if GL didn't charge for P&P.

BenoitRen
BenoitRen

@Phangtom @JWiley_12 "shortly"? The JP release has been delayed to autumn, as the grandparent post says. Something like 6 months later the North American version might release. Add another 6 months for it to get to Europe, if at all.

That means that a hypothetical release of Break Record is longer than a year away!


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